Well, hi there! Oh my gosh, it's me Dave Holmes, and welcome to Troubled Waters. The show that treats popular culture as the most important kind of culture, because my God, are we clinging to it for dear life right now, to celebrate pop culture, to analyze it, to tear it apart. Troubled Waters, pits a pair of entertainers against one another in a pop culture battle to the ego death to win this battle.

Each of them will be called upon to use their smarts, their rhetorical skills, the great comebacks that they wish they had said in the moment to earn the coveted troubled waters title Punditamertes, which will automatically give their opinion on how good those two or three jokes were that they added to the bear to keep it in

the comedy category. More weight than civilians.

Woo!

He liked it.

Let's get into it.

You're listening to Troupled Waters. Let's meet our guests, our first contestant.

Woo!

Our first contestant is the host of Valley Heat right here on Maximum Fun.

One of my favorite things in the world.

He will be hosting a live version of the show on September 19th.

I cannot wait.

It is Christian Dugay.

Christian, how are you?

I'm good. How are you, man?

I've never been better. Is this the nerve center? Is this where Valley Heat is, is, is recorded?

This is a garage. This is, uh, this is it. Wow. And you, you can see the titular heat in the

background. Listeners. There's a valley and there's some heat

and there's some heat yeah there's guitars there's salvation and lights oh boy this is a real

peak behind the curtain i love it uh there toilet paper paper towels great oh i meant to wear my uh jan

robinson t-shirt for this.

Oh, man.

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