‘Widow’s Bay’ Is One of Apple’s Boldest Swings Yet. Plus, ‘Top Chef’ Restaurant Wars.
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🗓️ 30 April 2026
⏱️ 75 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I ain't sports to have to clear the room. |
| 0:08.6 | Stand up and walk now. |
| 0:11.2 | Hello and welcome to The Watch. |
| 0:13.1 | My name is Chris Ryan. |
| 0:14.2 | I am an editor at the ringer.com. |
| 0:16.5 | And joining me in the studio looking for the next Martha's Vineyard, it's Andy Greenwald! I'm excited for today's show, kind of a genre zag. It is a genre zag, especially from the Scarity Cat across from me here. Andy, we are going to be talking about Widows Bay, which is a new show on Apple TV. We're going to talk about Top Chef. We have a little bit of news at the top. We have a grab bag of popular culture that we're going to hit on from the world of movies and music and television. It's great to see you. It's Thursday. We can keep... Let our hair down. If we have hair. Let it down. You want to unveil something? Yeah, my trip to Turkey. Is this time? It can I fucking work down? Can I ask you a quick question before we get into it? Yeah. About podcasting? I, you know, as always, I am a dedicated follower of your appearances across the podcasting space. And I really was enjoying your appearance on the Bill Simmons podcast. Until? The other day. There's no bud. Okay. But I was curious, so you, you kindly went on the Bill Simmons |
| 1:11.1 | podcast. You had an invitation to come on, I think, in the assumption that you would be there to be. |
| 1:16.3 | So I will say this. Yeah. To Bill's credit. Yeah. I was on Bill Simmons's pod the other day. Typically, |
| 1:21.6 | I have gone on in humiliating moments in Philadelphia sports. And sometimes it feels a little |
| 1:26.9 | humiliating for me personally. Sure. That being said, days before Bill was like, you haven't been on in the NBA playoffs, have you? And I was like, I have it. And then he hit me up on Tuesday and was like, are you around? I was supposed to do the mailbag with them that morning, I think. And instead came on for the night shift with late-night house. Which is a great team. You guys are great together. I thought that you guys were going to suggest some local, like, Kill Rockstars bands to be cheap halftime entertainment for the Trailblazer season. Did you get to the late part of the pod? I'm getting there. But here's my point. I want to bring this relevant. |
| 2:00.8 | This is not just for the sports heads out there. |
| 2:02.3 | Okay. |
| 2:02.7 | So you came on feeling good about the Sixers had a really nice victory. And he wanted to talk about Derek White and how he was slightly disappointing. What is the TV equivalent of that? If I came on here and I was like, Chris, beef season two is everything I want in a TV show this year. |
| 2:18.5 | And you were like, Chris, beef season two is everything I want in a TV show this year. |
| 2:18.6 | And you were like, Ali Wong kind of didn't show up this year. |
| 2:22.9 | And I just kind of focused on what she was doing instead. |
| 2:26.0 | Like, how could we do that for TV to each other? |
| 2:29.5 | I don't mean to throw this back at you, but is it kind of like talking about euphoria without ever having watched euphoria? |
| 2:37.2 | Yes. |
| 2:38.4 | However, now you're giving me ideas that what I could do instead is just talk about how I spent |
| 2:42.5 | my Sunday nights in 2018 and 2021 or whenever that show came up. |
| 2:46.5 | Yeah. |
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