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Kermode & Mayo’s Take

WICKED: Which Witch Wins - Is the Sequel/Prequel Equal?

Kermode & Mayo’s Take

Sony Music

Film Interviews, Tv & Film, Film Reviews, Tv Reviews

4.32.9K Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2025

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Some exciting news—The Take is now on Patreon: www.patreon.com/kermodeandmayo. Become a Vanguardista or an Ultra Vanguardista to get video episodes of Take Two every week, plus member‑only chat rooms, polls and submissions to influence the show, behind‑the‑scenes photos and videos, the monthly Redactor’s Roundup newsletter, and access to a new fortnightly LIVE show—a raucous, unfiltered lunchtime special with the Good Doctors, new features, and live chat so you can heckle, vote, and have your questions read out in real time. A leather-clad Alexander Skarsgård is riding into this week’s Take as our very special guest. That’s because he’s here to talk about ‘Pillion’, the one-of-a-kind comedy drama where he stars as mysterious BDSM biker Ray. The film follows his unfolding relationship with Colin, a shy small-town boy played by Harry Melling—who you might have heard on the show a few months back chatting to Simon about ‘Harvest’. Colin begins to discover his submissive streak under Ray’s dominant hand, as their complex relationship develops. Alexander sits down with Simon to unpack the film—a ‘Dom-Com’, as he calls it—and gives us the lowdown on what a Skarsgård Christmas looks like too. Don’s miss Mark’s review of ‘Pillion’ on next week’s show. This week we’ve got his verdicts on three more juicy new releases for you as usual. First up, ‘Sisu: Road to Revenge’--the Finnish action sequel to 2022’s ‘Sisu’, where seemingly unkillable action man Aatami Korpi goes on a revenge rampage against the Red Army. Plus, Bizarre biblical horror ‘The Carpenter’s Son’, starring Nicolas Cage going full Nicola Cage yet again—and ‘Wicked: For Good’ – the sequel to last year’s musical smash spectacle. The Good Doctors run down the box office top 10 too—and from the top of the charts to the bottom of the barrel, there’s the Laughter Lift. Plus your excellent and erudite correspondence answered. AND Don’t miss our upcoming LIVE Christmas Extravaganza at London’s Prince Edward Theatre on 7th December—with special guests Nia DaCosta, Gurinder Chadha, and more! Tickets here: fane.co.uk/kermode-mayo Timecodes (for Vanguardistas listening ad-free) Sisu: Road to Revenge Review: 13:44 BO10: 22:21 Alexander Skarsgard Interview: 37:37 The Carpenter’s Son Review: 51:15 Laughter Lift: 01:01:28 Wicked: For Good Review: 01:05:51 You can contact the show by emailing correspondence@kermodeandmayo.com or you can find us on social media, @KermodeandMayo Please take our survey and help shape the future of our show: https://www.kermodeandmayo.com/survey EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/take Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! A Sony Music Entertainment production. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts To advertise on this show contact: podcastadsales@sonymusic.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

So, Mark, you know when you've done enough in a day? Let's say you've spoken about your new book for the first time, recorded our wonderful show with the premium episodes for subscribers, maybe rehearsed with a band, you know, like the gang of three, that kind of thing.

0:13.9

I'm getting tired at just a thought. Well, when you've done enough, Uber eats. Get my favorite meals.

0:23.4

Well, food, snacks, shopping. all the Epicurean delights which your heart desires. Imagine hopping onto that sleeper, depends ants. And as

0:29.7

you're pulling out, you open Uber eats and have them deliver what you want as you arrive home.

0:35.0

What are you getting, would you say, in an ideal world?

0:37.9

I don't know, a plate of sushi and some ice cold Japanese beer.

0:40.8

I have to say my favourite is the slightly guilty last-minute emergency supermarket delivery

0:47.4

when you've just come back from holiday and you realise you've got like nothing in the house at all.

0:51.6

So when you've done enough, order some food on Uber Eats.

0:55.9

This episode is brought to you by Mooby, a curated streaming service dedicated to elevating

1:01.6

great cinema.

1:02.8

Mooby is the place to discover ambitious films by visionary filmmakers all carefully

1:07.2

handpicked.

1:08.2

So you can explore the best of cinema streaming anytime, anywhere. Mark,

1:13.0

what have Mooby got up their sleeves for us this October? Well, Simon, there's a very exciting

1:17.9

new release, The Mastermind, which is now in UK Cinemas. It's the new film from Kelly Ryker,

1:22.9

the brilliant director of Meeks cutoff, night moves and first cow for which we interviewed Toby

1:27.4

Jones. The film went down a storm in Cannes earlier this year. It stars Josh O'Connor, of course, another Kermudemeyer favorite, alongside Alain, Gavey Hoffman, Hope Davis and Bill Camp. Visit mooby.com slash mastermind for showtimes and tickets. And to stream great films at home, you can try Mooby-free for 30 days at Mooby.com

1:45.8

slash Kermode & Mayo. That's Mubi.com slash Kermud & Mayo for a whole month of great cinema for free.

1:53.8

Before we begin, a quick reminder that you can become a Vanguard Easter and get an extra episode

1:59.1

every Thursday, Including bonus reviews.

2:02.0

Extra viewing suggestions.

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