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Hey, it's Ray. We're doing something a little different today for our episode. We're in a bookstore, a very crowded bookstore, because Jeff Belanger and Frank... Is it the Starbucks? Yeah.

Yeah. Jeff and Frank are doing a signing for their new book, Wicked Strange. And we thought we'd talk about it before the crowds start to rush the boys. Yeah. Yeah. Jeff and Frank are doing a signing for their new book, Wicked Strange. And we thought we'd talk about it before the crowd start to rush the boys. How are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm good. Thank you. Frank. How are you? I'm doing fantastic. I'm really happy to be here. Well, we're happy to have you. And Jeff, how are you doing today? Yeah, this is exciting. This is launch day. But how are you today? I'm full of anxiety. Good. Wiggint Strange is the book. Your guide to Ghost, Monsters, Oddities, and Urban Legends from New England. Photography by Frank Grace. And I should mention that Jeff's name is a lot bigger than Frank's here. That is true. Oh, it's true. Yeah, I fought with this. Did you guys flip a coin or something? No, I told the publisher, I need like 20 point sizes bigger. And they were like, no, no, no, no. That dude has to be put has to be put in his place however though right people are going to look at the pictures first before they

read anything you know what being a picture guy a picture book guy myself i tend to agree with you

yeah but that's that just means i'm not well educated so i don't know if that's good or bad

the books for everybody exactly yeah um so uh why don't you guys start by telling me how

this came about i know you guys have been close friends for a long time and we often use a lot of

frank's photos yeah on our website sure yep and you guys have the calendar which is coming out

it's hanging on the wall right here at the bookstore because we're in a bookstore right

and there's lots of people everyone everyone cheer look at that um how did this come about so we met at the lizzie borden house was it

2012 2012? 2012 there was a haunted event and like lots of people I'd seen Frank's photos online

and so I was pretty excited to meet him and so I walked up and I was like he was literally like squatting down taking a picture or something at the Lizzie Borden house and I walked up I was like Frank Grace wow it's amazing to meet you I love your photography it's incredible and he just looks at me deadpan and he points to the little button the shutter button on his camera and goes, I just

push this button. The camera does most of the work. Click, click, click, click, click. Yeah, and I was like, oh, we're probably going to be friends. Like, that's pretty cool. And so, um, so it began there. And I'd always wanted to do a calendar. Yeah. But I'm not a good enough photographer. Right. And nobody wants to see you nude on a

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