This is Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby and you're listening to the Love, Happiness, and Success

Podcast.

I think she's a pretty little fool.

She holds me down.

She blows you.

She has her back like Marie.

And that, as you may or may not know, is Pearl by throwing Muses, a sort of mysterious song, I think, which many people of my vintage have attempted to interpret over the years.

But I have always kind of taken it to be about someone who is clearly in a not so great

relationship in which they lose themselves and may or may not finally get up the nerve to leave

at the very end. Sort of ambiguous.

You'll have to listen to the whole thing at the end and tell me what you think.

But anyway, I thought it was appropriate because today we're going to be talking about

breakups from another point of view.

And I haven't seen this one talked about that much.

So I thought it might be helpful to you guys if you're going through a breakup.

There's a lot of things about, you know, how to recover from a breakup, how to heal from a breakup.

But truly, I mean, I am a marriage counselor, right?

And so I've worked with so many couples and a lot of couples who are able to mend their relationships and go on to not just

heal their relationships but have better relationships than ever before. That totally happens.

And sometimes I work with couples who decide at the end of the day to split up. And I have learned

over the years that there are qualitative differences between relationships that end and relationships in which people get it together.

And I think this is a strong statement, but many times when people finally do decide to break up on some level, I think that it's a really good thing. There are other times when people finally do decide to break up on some level I think that it's a really good

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