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dot go at UK. When my son was in high school he played football, I tried to get him to look at the old-fashioned newspaper at least start out with the sports section.

Because I'm like, you know, there's other things you might get exposed to.

Mia Pickering lives in Seattle, Washington.

She's talking about her son, Spencer Pickering,

who's now 26 years old.

Looking back, Mia admits that her efforts with old-fashioned newsprint

didn't exactly make a huge impression on Spencer. A number of years ago,

Spencer and I had a conversation about where he gets some of his ideas and I had never heard of Joe Rogan at that time. I mean, we're talking, you know, know five six years ago kind of thing there was a woman who it was in the 1970s who had some sort of analogy to pain pills they put put wires into her brain and gave her a device. Do you know the story?

Yeah, where it actually hits the pleasure center and then you're like, my God,

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