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There's definitely a higher order that is way more intelligent than me.

And you know, I go where I need to go and I do what I think is best.

And if it doesn't go my way, I accept that it wasn't supposed to be that way.

Rob, it's great to have you here and I'm so fascinated. I don't even know where this is going to go.

And that's the point. It's going to be raw and real, just like you are. So I appreciate your time today.

Thanks, Joe.

You got a man and you know, we were chatting a little bit about it.

I was getting pumped up on Rob's time and I saw you reminded me I just got to give that to all the metalheads back in the day.

That's how I grew up. So yeah, you just you have this fun personality, man.

And when I when I started diving into your stuff and your work and everything you put out just has that kind of fire behind it, that passion.

And it just it just permeates and it's unique, man.

So well, like how long they've just found out I think, Joe, that the our universe that we're in has existed for 26.7 billion years.

So think about our universe and how many infinite numbers of universes there are there.

And if space and time are infinite, why do we take stuff so seriously? Why do we hate? Why do we fight?

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