at that market cap we need that bigger money marginal buyer to decisively move move ether.

But I think as part of the regular market cycles as well, with a flight of new kind of money

coming in from like retail investors, that can still move ether up. But if you want ether like

10, 15, 20k, it needs to be the big money as well, like the Wall Street, ETF money. It can't just

be that regular retail buyer.

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We've done a lot of ETH episodes lately.

Some ETH episodes that have been more bearish. This is not one of those. This is an episode that is Max bullish on ether the asset

and Ethereum, the network. We got Anthony Sassano here. He took a couple months off on vacation,

and he came back with some bull fud busting fury pent-up

demand pent-up energy yeah i think he heard rumor of some of the episodes that that we did with

you know like kyle and max and he wanted to uh you know come on and basically refute some of the

points made so we've got three parts to this episode.

First, him answering the criticisms, then him making the bullcase for either the asset

and explaining why he is still bullish and then prognosticating on the future, particularly

the question that's in a lot of Heath Holder's mind is like, uh, when we going up?

Yeah.

Is this cycle going to skip?

When us?

My asset.

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