Why You Overthink Every Conversation After It Ends ft. Shadé Zahrai
The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Civility Media
4.9 • 8.9K Ratings
🗓️ 28 April 2026
⏱️ 65 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Are you somebody who's ever struggled with self-doubt? |
| 0:02.0 | I know I have. |
| 0:03.0 | Today I am talking with the one and only Dr. Shadeh Zurai, who's probably one of the loveliest humans you'll ever get to hear. Her book is titled Big Trust. Rewire self-doubt, find your confidence, and fuel success. This is a book you are going to want to get. You'll find the links down in the show notes. Today we are talking all about self-doubt. |
| 0:21.6 | The elements of it, what happens, and how to fix it, how to attack it, and how to live with it. |
| 0:27.4 | It's an episode you're going to love. I hope you enjoy the conversation. I want to go back to |
| 0:32.1 | when we talk about what a lot of people listening don't understand what happens from the, whatever we call |
| 0:41.2 | that space, creator, influencer, author, speaker, you, we find some vein that we want to |
| 0:50.5 | plug into and go, I like this, I like talking about this kind of stuff. |
| 1:00.5 | And now we're at a place where you have a book, you do the podcast, you do the conversations, |
| 1:07.0 | and especially after shows, podcast shows, or even speaking, right after it, |
| 1:16.9 | there's this moment where, at least for me, I turn into the biggest critic of myself. |
| 1:25.8 | And so I know you're going to have a lot on this. What is the science behind being your own worst critic. |
| 1:30.3 | Where do we start? There's actually so much we could explore here. |
| 1:32.3 | I think we need to acknowledge that any kind of doubt that we have, |
| 1:36.3 | any kind of criticism that we experience, |
| 1:38.3 | it's entirely natural, it's entirely human. |
| 1:41.3 | It's a function of the brain that is wired to try and keep us safe and protect us. But how that manifests in our modern day world is that we become hypercritical and we attack ourselves and we become our own worst enemy. And so those people who are able to still experience that, but then detach from that voice and still take action anyway, |
| 2:02.0 | they're the ones who succeed. It's actually super fascinating. So I spent the last five years |
| 2:05.8 | studying self-doubt, why we doubt ourselves, why we get self-critical. |
| 2:10.3 | You got a PhD? Oh, yes, exactly. One of the hardest things I've ever done. A doctor now. |
| 2:14.3 | Yes. Organizational behavior? Exactly. So it's like the applied psychology |
| 2:18.7 | within organizations and how it affects us at work. That's incredible. You know, yeah, job performance, |
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