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KERA's Think

Why you fight about the dishwasher

KERA's Think

KERA

Society & Culture, 071003, Kera, Think, Krysboyd

4.8861 Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Every relationship has a person who loads the dishwasher like an architect, and one who throws plates in like a tornado. Ellen Cushing, staff writer for The Atlantic, joins host Krys Boyd to discuss why arguments over daily chores might signal deeper issues in a partnership, why some household appliances have such a hold on us, and, yes, we’ll get to scientific proof of how that dishwasher is really supposed to be loaded. (Be prepared to tell your significant other.) Her article is, “There Are Two Types of Dishwasher People.

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There's this online meme that says,

0:12.1

In every relationship, there is one person who loads the dishwasher like a Scandinavian architect,

0:17.5

and one who loads it like a raccoon on meth.

0:22.8

So today I would like to go on record and give a shout out to my fellow raccoons. From KERA in Dallas, this is Think. I'm Chris Boyd.

0:30.5

Given other fundamental disagreements we might have with our partners about how to handle money

0:35.8

or how to raise kids, maybe the dishwasher

0:38.1

thing seems inconsequential. But given that therapists report recurring dishwasher fights come

0:44.6

up kind of a lot in relationship counseling, it is worth understanding why they happen and

0:49.7

asking whether there really is a right way to use this weirdly controversial appliance.

0:55.0

Ellen Cushing is a staff writer at The Atlantic, which published her article,

0:59.0

The Absolutely Positively Correct Way to Load Your Dishwasher.

1:03.0

Ellen, welcome to think.

1:05.0

Hello. Thank you for having me. I'm also a raccoon.

1:09.0

We need to have a support group.

1:12.3

Even the title of this article strikes me as something that will get people's tackles up.

1:19.0

Yes, definitely.

1:20.5

I was hoping you would be a little bit sarcastic, which it is.

1:24.4

The truth is there's not really a one right way to load the dishwasher

1:29.6

because all dishwashers are different and all dishes are different. But there are some

1:35.0

principles that kind of stand throughout the dishwasher universe that are consistent and

1:42.5

should be followed.

1:50.8

It is pretty much inevitable that couples who are committed for the long term will have some of the same arguments over and over and they'll never quite be resolved. Most of those, though,

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