Welcome to Edit Your Life, a podcast to help you edit the unnecessary from your life so you have more room to enjoy the awesome.

Through episodes with me, Christine Coe, and a range of smart, compassionate guests, you will come away with insights and tactics to help you find the agency and space to simplify and declutter your home, time, mental space, and more.

Hello, friends. Wow, am I excited to bring you this conversation with Dana Miranda.

Dana is the author of the book, You Don't Need a Budget.

Stop worrying about debt, spend without shame, and manage money with ease. I mean, hello? Who doesn't want that in their lives? Dana and I talk all about dismantling budget culture, why it's important to seek ease instead of control as it relates to finances. We cover debt, investing,

and more. It is a fascinating conversation. And having this chat and also reading her book

really got me thinking in a different way about finances. That was so very welcome. Let's get right to

it. Hello, Dana, and welcome to edit your life. I'm so delighted

to have you on the show today. Hi. Hi. Thanks so much for having me, Christine. Yes, this is very exciting.

I will have introduced you and your book in the intro, and I'm just very excited to talk about money

because money is something that

people are really squirly talking about. You know all about that. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah,

yeah, it's a challenge for sure. And so I have a bunch of questions because your book kind of in a very

awesome way, like turns a lot of conventional advice on its head. And so I always find

that intriguing. So let's dive right in. I really appreciate you have a very strong point of

view with which you open your book. And even though I consider myself financially responsible,

over many years, I'm 52. Something about budgeting has just never clicked for me.

And I haven't been able to figure out why. I've never really deeply thought about it.

But when I read your framing on budget culture, I was wondering if, like, somewhere not articulated

as well in my head or my voice, but was kind of in line with some of the things you were talking about.

And I just found it fascinating. So can you give listeners a top line on budget culture what it is

and why you feel we should be working to dismantle it? Yeah. And that's, you say that I opened the book

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