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Smart People Podcast

Why You Can’t Heal Until Your Body Feels Safe… and How To Get There with Dr. David Rabin

Smart People Podcast

Smart People Industries

Business, Education, Society & Culture

4.6736 Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing all the right things—the workouts, the healthy food, the meditation app, the supplements—but your body still isn’t responding the way it should… this episode is for you. Because here’s the truth: You can’t heal until your body feels safe. Not calm. Not relaxed. Safe. And that’s not just a mindset—it’s a biological state. Today’s guest, Dr. David Rabin, is a board-certified psychiatrist, neuroscientist, and co-founder of Apollo Neuro. He’s spent decades researching how chronic stress, trauma, and even subconscious fear can hijack your nervous system and silently block your body’s ability to recover. What he’s uncovered is game-changing: the body doesn’t heal because we tell it to—it heals when it knows it can. In this conversation, we break down exactly how that works—starting with the vagus nerve, the body’s command center for switching between stress and recovery. Dr. Rabin explains why your nervous system might still be operating in fight-or-flight mode, even if your life feels perfectly fine. You’ll learn how stress re-routes resources away from the parts of your body responsible for sleep, digestion, immunity, and long-term healing—and why most of us have no idea it’s happening. We also explore how trauma can be stored in the body for years, why it doesn’t always show up in your memories, and how new tools—from psychedelics to vibration-based therapies—are helping people access deep healing without spending a decade in talk therapy. By the end of this episode, you’ll have a whole new framework for understanding stress—not just as a feeling, but as a physiological state you can learn to shift. And more importantly, you’ll leave with actionable ways to start teaching your body what safety actually feels like. So if you’ve ever wondered why you still feel stuck—even when life looks good on paper—don’t miss this one. Let’s get into it. Learn more about Dr. Rabin at drdave.io. Support the Show - Become a Patron! Help us grow and become a Patron today: https://www.patreon.com/smartpeoplepodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

You don't feel stressed.

0:01.8

You're managing life just fine, right?

0:04.7

So why does your body still feel anxious, tense, or completely wiped out?

0:10.0

The truth is there's a hidden stress response running in the background, and it could be

0:15.0

sabotaging more than you realize.

0:19.7

This is Smart People Podcast, podcast for Smart people, where we talk to smart people, but not

0:26.4

necessarily done by smart people.

0:32.8

Today we're building on last week's conversation with Dr. Sharon Bergquist by going even deeper

0:37.8

into the hidden side of stress, the kind you don't see coming.

0:41.7

Our guest is Dr. David Raven, a neuroscientist, psychiatrist, and co-founder of Apollo

0:46.9

Neuro.

0:47.6

He's one of the few experts bridging psychedelic science, wearable tech, and trauma-informed

0:53.9

therapy to explore how our nervous system

0:56.7

holds on to stress even when we think we've moved on. In this episode, we unpack why your body

1:02.4

might still be operating in survival mode, how chronic stress literally reroutes blood flow

1:08.2

away from healing systems, and what it really takes to shift from coping to

1:13.5

recovery. You'll learn about how trauma can be passed down and why experiential healing is the

1:19.3

powerful solution. Whether you're burned out, stuck in anxiety, or just curious about the

1:24.7

neuroscience of healing, this episode is for you.

1:28.3

Also highly recommend downloading the Apollo neuro app.

1:32.5

It's free to try.

1:33.9

I've been using it daily.

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