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Why Would Justin Welby Forgive a Serial Child Abuser?

Newscast

BBC

News, Daily News, Politics

4.36.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 March 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Today, Laura, Paddy and Henry discuss Justin Welby’s first interview since resigning as Archbishop of Canterbury last year.

He said he forgave the serial abuser John Smyth who was at the heart of the scandal that led to his resignation. In 2024 a damning review found that Welby "could and should" have done more to bring Smyth to justice.

Plus, we take a look at the week ahead for the economy, as bills are set to rise across the country and tariffs from President Trump may come into force.

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0:22.8

So, Paddy, apparently we're still talking about Wiggle and Riggle.

0:25.4

I said Wiggle, you said Wiggle.

0:27.2

Mark Lohen said Wiggle.

0:28.2

I was outvoted, which is outrageous.

0:30.9

Henry, save us.

0:32.5

Can we make it a draw to all?

0:35.4

Or do you side with your chums?

0:38.9

I'm sorry, Laura, but I think it's Wiggle.

0:42.6

I think wriggle implies judgment.

0:45.9

It implies that someone is sort of slithering their way out of something.

0:49.8

And I don't think it's a pejorative idiom.

0:52.8

I think it just means space to move about.

0:55.0

Yeah.

0:55.9

It's just because it's like how you get a tight shoe on your foot or indeed how you get it off your foot.

1:01.7

So it's like wiggle.

1:04.4

I'm very, very, very saddened by this.

1:06.8

I might claim, as a friend text me this morning who'd obviously be listening to it,

1:09.8

I might claim that it's a Scottish thing.

1:11.6

She said maybe it's a Scottish thing.

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