Pushkin.

This guy calls me like seven in the morning.

Like Tommy was out.

In 2001, the head of Sony music, Tommy Motola, called the rap producer Irv Gaudi. At the time, Gadi worked with Jay-Z, J-Z, J-Rul, Ashanti, DMX. In the hip-hop world of the early arts, he was at the top of his game. He's like, yo, I need you to make a record. And I said, what? He said, make a record with J-Lo and put J-L on it and make it a duet.

And I say, yo, I need total creative of Tommies. I'm doing whatever the fuck I want.

Tommy was like, you could do whatever the fuck you want, as long as it's a duet with J-Rul and J-Lo.

Motolo wanted Goddy to do a remix of I'm Real, a single off Jalo's second album.

The first time around, it had been a generic ballad.

Matola thought it could be reinvigorated.

Gotti went to work and started to make a demo with Jarlal and Ashanti.

I said, yo, I got the record, if I'm real.

Him and his wife, Talia, come to the crack house, my studio in Soho.

And it's funny because the freight elevator used to always go out.

So him and Talia walked up six flights of stairs.

He gets upstairs.

He said, this fucking record better be fucking good.

So I play it.

I play it real form.

Him and his wife go crazy.

They're like, oh my God, it was a one listen.

They listened.

And it was like, it's the biggest record.

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