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The Gist

Why Working People Left the Democrats

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

Daily News, News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 29 November 2016

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

For years, Thomas Frank has been the Cassandra of the Democratic Party, arguing that it had long since sold out working Americans and was using a socially liberal agenda to paper over its new corporate allegiances. Like Cassandra, he was largely ignored—until the election of President-elect Donald Trump. Frank is the author of Listen, Liberal: Or, What Ever Happened to the Party of the People? Ray Zaborney is a Republican political strategist based in Pennsylvania. He and Mike jousted on Twitter as the Blue Wall went red on election night. Today on The Gist, Zaborney pushes back against the notion that Trump voters in the Rust Belt were snookered by the candidate's outsize claims. The Spiel is on hiatus. It will be back on Wednesday. Today's sponsors:  Basecamp. If you're running your own business on email, texts, chat, or meetings, you're doing it the hard way. Luckily there's a better way: Try Basecamp for free today at basecamp.com/gist. Indochino, the company that's reinventing men's fashion. Go to Indochino.com to get any premium suit for just $389, plus free shipping, when you use promo code gist at checkout. Join Slate Plus! Members get bonus segments, exclusive member-only podcasts, and more. Sign up for a free trial today at slate.com/gistplus.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The following podcast contains explicit language.

0:03.4

It's Tuesday, November 29, 2016, from slated to just dimight pesca.

0:13.0

Whenever we used to talk about palace intrigue in a US political context, there might have

0:17.4

been some intrigue, but there was never an actual palace.

0:20.6

Now Donald Trump gives us both.

0:22.9

And without getting into all the sniping and reported sniping between the president-elect

0:27.1

Kellyanne Conway, sources said to be familiar with Donald Trump's thinking, yeah, because

0:32.9

that's a thing that's said in place.

0:35.0

A burnt American flag.

0:36.8

Without getting into all that, I just want to point out what a great favor that one

0:41.6

of our most learned public intellectuals has given Trump.

0:45.3

The person I'm thinking of is Dara's current goodwin.

0:48.4

And she has provided the phrase that has become the mental framework for Trump's transition.

0:54.4

Rom, he said, the fact he's even talking to me shows that he's ripping a page from

0:59.6

team of rivals in Lincoln.

1:01.3

Maybe Trump is trying to replicate in the White House this team of rivals concept he often

1:06.7

uses in his private business.

1:08.8

Morning Joe, Paul Gideaux, elevating what's going on with Trump to the team of rivals.

1:14.9

It's a team of rivals.

1:16.9

Lincoln's cabinet?

1:18.4

Trump's cabinet.

1:19.8

Without team of rivals, think of the phrases that we may be using.

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