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Hard Knox with Amanda Knox

Why Win-Win Thinking Is So Hard (Liv Boeree)

Hard Knox with Amanda Knox

Knox Robinson Productions

True Crime, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Liv Boeree is a former professional poker champion turned science communicator whose work explores game theory, technology, and the incentive systems shaping our world. In this wide-ranging conversation, Amanda and Liv examine how our competitive instincts can either sabotage us or help us grow, how to design lives that create more win-win dynamics, and why learning to “zoom out” may be the most powerful resilience skill we have. They also dig into why we misjudge luck, tilt, and loss, and how gamifying our choices can reveal what truly makes our tails wag. Reach out to us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.amandaknox.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠amandaknox.substack.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: @amandaknox IG: @amamaknox Bluesky: @⁠⁠amandaknox.com⁠⁠ ⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Free: My Search for Meaning⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Waking Up Meditation App ⁠⁠⁠https://www.wakingup.com/Amandaknox Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:04.0

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0:08.2

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0:10.1

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0:15.0

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0:17.2

Dominate your finances.

0:19.4

Sunday morning, listening to questionable financial advice

0:23.0

from the Fin Tok Bros on his social feed. Drowning in green. Scale, scale, scale, scale, scale, scale.

0:29.9

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0:35.3

and save up for that new skateboard.

0:39.8

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0:42.0

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0:45.0

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0:58.3

I'm Amanda Knox, and you're listening to Hard Knocks. Today on Hard Knocks, we have Liv Burie, an astrophysicist by training, a former professional

1:04.5

poker player known as the Iron Maiden, now a science communicator, writer, speaker,

1:10.2

and founder of Raising for Effective Giving,

1:13.3

a nonprofit promoting effective altruism in the poker community. In this conversation, we talk

1:18.8

a lot about decision-making, reinvention, personal growth, a little bit about resilience and

1:26.6

emotional mastery, but a lot of like trying to think about

1:30.7

how systems incentivize us to be winners, losers, or how to find win-win solutions to seemingly

1:40.0

zero-sum of realities. So I hope you enjoy this conversation.

1:50.4

Liv Burree. For those who may not be familiar with who you are, although they should be,

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