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Critics at Large | The New Yorker

Why We Travel

Critics at Large | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

Society & Culture

4.4678 Ratings

🗓️ 3 July 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

It’s a confusing time to travel. Tourism is projected to hit record-breaking levels this year, and its toll on the culture and ecosystems of popular vacation spots is increasingly hard to ignore. Social media pushes hoards to places unable to withstand the traffic, while the rise of “last-chance” travel—the rush to see melting glaciers or deteriorating coral reefs before they’re gone forever—has turned the precarity of these destinations into a selling point. On this episode of Critics at Large, Vinson Cunningham, Naomi Fry, and Alexandra Schwartz explore the question of why we travel. They trace the rich history of travel narratives, from the memoirs of Marco Polo and nineteenth-century accounts of the Grand Tour to shows like Anthony Bourdain’s “Parts Unknown” and HBO’s “The White Lotus.” Why are we compelled to pack a bag and set off, given the growing number of reasons not to do so? “One thing that’s really important for me as a traveller is the experience of being foreign,” Schwartz says. “I’m starting to realize that there are places I may never go, and this has actually made other people’s accounts of them, in the deeper sense, more important.”


This episode originally aired on June 13, 2024. 


Read, watch, and listen with the critics:


The New Tourist,” by Paige McClanahan

The “Lonely Planet” guidebooks

The Travels of Marco Polo,” by Rustichello da Pisa

Of Travel,” by Francis Bacon

The Innocents Abroad,” by Mark Twain

Self-Reliance,” by Ralph Waldo Emerson

Travels through France and Italy,” by Tobias Smollett

“Anthony Bourdain: Parts Unknown” (2013-18)

“The White Lotus” (2021—)

“Conan O’Brien Must Go” (2024)

It Just Got Easier to Visit a Vanishing Glacier. Is That a Good Thing?,” by Paige McClanahan (The New York Times)

The New Luxury Vacation: Being Dumped in the Middle of Nowhere,” by Ed Caesar (The New Yorker)


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Critics at Large, a podcast from The New Yorker.

0:09.4

I'm Alex Schwartz.

0:10.8

I'm Nomi Fry.

0:11.9

And I'm Vincent Cunningham.

0:13.7

Each week on this show, we make sense of what's happening in the culture right now and how we got here.

0:24.9

Yeah. the culture right now and how we got here. It's already a big, big year for summer travel.

0:28.8

If you don't believe me, just go ahead, take a good look at your Instagram feed.

0:32.4

Come back to the pod whenever you can.

0:36.2

I have already seen the classic picture of, you know, someone's unsteady phone camera in between a suspiciously narrow alley and what looks like Italy.

0:46.3

You know what I mean?

0:46.7

Guys, I've been seeing Greece.

0:48.1

I've been seeing France.

0:49.5

I've been, I've been, you know, it's starting.

0:52.7

It's natural and it's reasonable.

0:56.2

You can't deny, right, like the thrill of packing a big bag, usually for me, just hours before I get on the plane.

1:03.9

Classic Vincent.

1:04.7

That's absolutely right.

1:06.0

Setting an itinerary and then jetting away from all the responsibilities and anxieties, the quotidian details of everyday life.

1:15.5

But I will also say it's kind of a confusing time to take on that designation, tourist, right?

1:22.4

Like I'm sort of like counting my carbon footprint more than ever.

1:26.9

Like every time I'm on a plane, I feel differently about it.

1:29.4

Every time I'd step into a square that is populated by other honking Americans, I just, I just, I feel weirder about it than I used to.

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