What I'm just I'm just gonna run quickly a clip the clip, which I think lots of people have seen and

And then we'll have a conversation. We'll second. Let's go

What is worth more art or life? Is it worth more than food?

Worth more than justice? Are you more concerned about the protection of the painting or the protection of our planet and people?

The cost of living crisis is part of the cost of oil crisis. Few is

Unaffordable to millions of cold, hungry families. They can't even afford to heat a tin of soup.

Millions of people are dying in monsoons, wildfires and severe drought. We cannot afford new oil and gas. It is going to take everything we know and love.

So that's obviously the action by just stop oil, which of course Emma here is a member of. Now this cause a lot of controversy including looks that's supposed to be naturally sympathetic. I should note the painting wasn't damaged. The painting was protected by glass. So basically the net impact was some paint on some glass.

In terms of the lasting consequence of people are disturbed at the destruction of the painting. No painting was destroyed in the making of this protest. I suppose you could say.

I think they've briefly arrested for criminal damage or something. I don't know what the criminal damage is. Is it to the floor or something because of the paint? I don't know what it was. So Emma, I just want to ask so firstly, a lot of people will go.

Well, just tell me firstly, what just what's just stop oil's big a what what are you fighting for?

We have one really simple demand, which is that the UK government helps all new licenses and consents for fossil fuels in the UK.

That's something that the international energy agency, the UN, is what our own their own climate change committee are recommended.

They've even been taken to the high court of ban guilty of not meeting their net zero commitments. Like it's completely incompatible with climate action.

And obviously when we started this campaign actually was 40 new oil and gas projects that were proposed.

Now this autumn, it's been it's a hundred hundred new oil and gas projects. So as soon as we get a meaningful statement from the government, this disruption will stop.

So they're not listening to rationality to common sense to their own advisors and no one is holding to account.

So that's why we've got young people taking this kind of action.

So we've got one comment here, for example, which is supportive from pseudo NSTR.

Those were more upset about a potential damage of a painting than the actual damage to our planet, which spows without actually damaging the painting. It's very well done.

Yeah, so I suppose a lot of people I saw on social media were like, well, I'm never going to support their cause again.

Would you would you mean by that? You're not going to support a transition to a renewable and an economy based on renewable energy?

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