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Verdict with Ted Cruz

Why We Should Designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a Terrorist Organization, plus IRS Concludes Churches Can Endorse Candidates & NYT Reports Biden Unaware of Many Autopen Pardons

Verdict with Ted Cruz

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Politics, Daily News, News, News Commentary

4.542.9K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

  • Designation of the Muslim Brotherhood as a Terrorist Organization

    • Senator Cruz discusses his long-standing effort to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist group.
    • He outlines the organization's history, global reach, and alleged ties to terrorism.
    • The conversation critiques past U.S. administrations, particularly the Obama and Biden administrations, for their handling of the Brotherhood.
    • Cruz introduces a “modernized” version of his bill using a “bottom-up” approach to target specific violent branches first.
  • IRS Ruling on Churches and Political Endorsements

    • The IRS has agreed that churches and pastors can endorse political candidates without risking their tax-exempt status.
    • This is framed as a major shift from the Johnson Amendment, which previously discouraged political speech from the pulpit.
    • The discussion includes a personal anecdote from Cruz about defending pastors in Houston who were subpoenaed for their sermons.
  • Biden Autopen Scandal

    • The New York Times reported that President Biden used an autopen to sign pardons without personally reviewing each case.
    • Cruz argues that this could render many of those pardons legally invalid under DOJ guidelines.
    • The conversation speculates on the legal and political implications, including potential challenges to the pardons.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:05.5

Welcome, it is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you. It's nice to have you.

0:10.5

And, Senator, we've got some very interesting legislation that you are heading up that is making waves.

0:17.6

Fill people in on what you're wanting to do.

0:20.0

Well, this week I introduced legislation

0:22.2

to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. This is a fight I've been

0:27.8

fighting for over a decade. I think the Muslim Brotherhood clearly is a terrorist organization.

0:32.6

It is profoundly dangerous. And I think we are closer right now to victory on this issue than we ever have been.

0:39.1

We're going to do a deep dive, explain the background, what the issues are, why we're close to

0:44.8

victory, and what that would mean. We're also going to talk about an amazing development, a really

0:49.5

important development, which is the IRS has now said explicitly that churches and pastors can endorse

0:58.4

political candidates. That is a big, big deal. For a long time, there was legislation known

1:05.4

as the Johnson Amendment that was interpreted as stripping the ability of pastors and churches

1:09.8

to express their views on

1:11.6

politics. The IRS entered into a consent agreement that now makes clear churches and pastors

1:17.7

can tell their congregations exactly what they think about politics. That's a big, big deal.

1:25.3

And finally, the New York Times in a shocking expose looked at the Biden

1:32.1

auto-pen scandal. And they reported that for a significant portion of the auto-penned pardons that

1:40.1

Joe Biden signed, that he was not individually aware of who it was that was getting

1:46.4

pardoned. That is incredibly consequential. It means as a legal matter, those pardons are null and

1:53.1

void. We're going to explain all of that right now. Yeah, it's a really interesting story.

1:57.6

We're going to have all those details for you in just a moment. Let me also just say many of you may be listening to the show for the first time,

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