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Welcome to Talking Fed's one-on-one, deep-dive discussions with national figures

about the most fascinating and consequential issues defining our culture and shaping our lives.

I'm your host, Harry Littman.

I'm here with the formidable, maybe I'd say indomitable Marcy Wheeler, who you know well

and who is known by her moniker of Empty Wheel and who blogs at Empty Wheel and is on many

outlets and TV and the author of Anand that and me have to seed a primer on

the CIA leak investigation. All right, we're only a couple months from inauguration, and I think

there's going to be a real brouhaha ahead about the existence of and the more importantly content of any report from

jack smith which from his perch outside the government trump will try to battle and then if he goes, once he takes the reins, I think we can expect

it to be, you know, vaporized from history, 1984 style.

So I wanted to focus in on what is really missing in the historical record, especially in Mar-a-Lago.

We know we've had the January 6th Committee report and the Long-Smith Brief in the January

6th case.

And no one better than this, I think, for all the sort of details in digging deep than

Marcy.

So I'm really pleased to have her here.

Thanks for joining.

Are we allowed to say where you are, yeah?

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