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Getting Better with Jonathan Van Ness

Why We Love Office Supplies w/ the "Staples Baddie"

Getting Better with Jonathan Van Ness

Sony Music

Self-improvement, Education, Comedy, Society & Culture

4.919K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

“Y’all, let’s make a mug. Tap in.”  As we continue to thrive during Pride Month, JVN sits down with TikTok superstar Kaden Rowland, aka the “Staples Baddie,” to talk all things office supplies, retail life, and internet fame. From the joy of a perfectly stocked stationery aisle to the story behind her viral success, Kaden shares how her love of pens, planners, and customer service won over millions online. Along the way, they chat about creativity, home office trends, journaling, mental wellness, and staying authentic while navigating life on and off social media - stationary lovers, this one is for you!  Wanna see JVN on stage? Get tix to the Hot & Healed Comedy Tour here.  Full Video Episodes now available on YouTube.  Follow Kaeden Rowland (aka Oblivion)  on TikTok @blivxxx Follow us on Instagram @gettingbetterwithjvn Follow Jonathan on Instagram @jvn Executive  Producer, Chris McClure Producer, Editor & Engineer is Nathanael McClure Production support from: Chad Hall Our theme music is also composed by Nathanael McClure.Curious about bringing your brand to life on the show? Email podcastadsales@sonymusic.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey Better Babes. Welcome back to Getting Better. It's me and Jonathan Van Ness. And this episode

0:03.8

have we got a treat for you. So rewind a little bit to the beginning of the year. I'm mining my own

0:07.6

business on TikTok and the fiercest Staples Batty crosses my FYP. She is giving me the importance of

0:14.4

direct mail, stamps, binders. In my case, it was also like the variety of chairs offered by

0:20.0

Staples. Enter Caden Rowland, aka the Staples the variety of chairs offered by Staples.

0:25.6

Enter Caden Rowland, aka The Staples Batty, also aka Oblivion on TikTok.

0:30.0

Today, we're getting better at getting our offices together at home and at our workplace,

0:34.5

getting our authenticity together, and understanding all of what you can do at Staples,

1:11.5

with none other than Caden Rowland, aka the Staples Batty. Caden, welcome to getting better. How are you? Oh, God, I'm amazing. Thank you so much for having me. Queen, I'm so excited to meet you in the Flash. Oh my God, I'm excited to meet you in the Flash. You were like unreal. You were so beautiful. And also, here's one thing that I feel like that TikTok filter was like not even giving you justice for is your hair color. I did not realize you were getting it. And there's like, I can tell she's virgin this color. Like that is not, that is like yours of not touching out with anything. God given color. That color is like, oh. People pay good money. And I love the, I mean, it's my favorite thing.

1:30.4

And just, I don't want to like, I know we just met. And I don't want you to make lifelong promises to someone that, like, you just met. Because it's like stranger danger. But as like a colorist of like 20 years, like, I implore you never to color that. Like, don't. No. I could see like a little face framing mode of highlights if you felt for it because it was like spring and you were like, oh my gosh.

1:28.3

But it has to be someone who

1:31.5

knows i would be happy to do but i would be happy to do but i just don't want you to touch your base

1:36.2

color like that base color literally like the way that like that base color uh huh so gaggy. So pretty.

1:44.7

My hair's been every other color of the rainbow.

1:47.1

So it's like, now I just let it sit for years.

1:49.4

And I'm like, I can't touch it anymore.

1:51.1

I barely put heat to it.

1:52.7

Like, I just, I try to take it the best care.

1:54.9

She's doing you're doing such a good job when I'm gorgeous.

2:00.7

This podcast is all about truth, honesty and learning from life setbacks. Every week I speak

2:07.0

with inspiring guests from around the world. But before those big conversations, I sometimes

2:11.9

need help feeling calm, fresh and confident. That's why I love dove, whole body Deodrent. It gives all day odour protection and can be

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