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Why We Love Conspiracy Theories: A Conversation with Sharon McMahon

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Faith Matters Foundation

Christianity, Ethics, Latter-day Saint, The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-day Saints, Mormon, Mormonism, Morality, Lds, Philosophy, Religion & Spirituality

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 31 August 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

You’ve probably heard the old joke—we caught it again recently on Ezra Klein’s show. A conspiracy theorist dies and goes to heaven. At the pearly gates, God tells him he can ask one question—anything at all. The conspiracy theorist says, “Who really killed JFK?” God replies, “Lee Harvey Oswald and he acted alone.” The conspiracy theorist pauses, nods, and says, “Wow. This goes higher than I thought.” The joke captures just how impenetrable conspiracy thinking can be. That’s part of what we’re...

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It goes like this.

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A conspiracy theorist dies and goes to heaven.

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At the pearly gates, God tells him that he can ask one question, anything at all.

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And the conspiracy theorist says,

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Okay, I want to know who really killed JFK.

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God replies, Lee Harvey Oswald, and he acted alone. The conspiracy theorist pauses. He nods, and he

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says, wow, this goes higher than I thought. The joke lands because it captures just how impenetrable

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conspiracy thinking can feel. And that's part of what we're exploring today with our guest, Sharon

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McMahon. Sharon is a former high school government teacher turned trusted national educator, best-selling

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author, and host of the Sharon Says So podcast.

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She's known for bringing truth, clarity, and calm to some of the most divisive issues

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in American public life.

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Sharon helped us today to unpack why conspiracy theories can be so compelling, how they spread,

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