Gooday, humans. Welcome to the show that goes where others don't, the show that rejects

partisan squabbling and tribal groupthink. I'm Josh Zips. I'm your humble warrior princess,

hunting down the world's most fascinating minds to wrestle with one provocative question each

week.

Much of modern culture and politics and media is tailor-made, especially social media,

tailor-made to pander to what we already believe and distort what we don't, to reinforce our biases and exaggerate our differences.

But change doesn't happen in an echo chamber. to reinforce our biases and exaggerate our differences.

But change doesn't happen in an echo chamber.

It's time to leave the mental comfort zone,

to flex our minds and step on some landmines, folks.

It's time to have uncomfortable conversations.

Today on the show, Michael Slepian, an academic who studies secrets.

He works at Columbia Business School.

Previously was a visiting scholar at Stanford University.

He has a PhD from Tufts University.

And he's an elected fellow of the Society of Experimental Social Psychology.

He studies the psychology of secrets, how keeping secrets affects all the things that govern our lives, our social lives, our organizational lives, he studies,

yes, the psychology of secrecy. Enjoy as much as I did, the one and only Michael Slepia. I am right on the river.

I can overlook it and see New Jersey on the other side.

Oh, how lovely.

Can see some good sunsets if I'm at work very late because the sunsets late now.

Thankfully, thank God we finally got there. I miss it. I was because the sun sets late now. Thankfully, thank God.

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