Why We Judge Women’s Spending, What We Hide, & What We’re Afraid to Admit

The Money with Katie Show

Money with Katie

Investing, How To, Self-improvement, Business, Education

4.8 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Today’s guest won’t surprise you if you read the introduction to Rich Girl Nation, which recollected the 2018 event that made me think personal finance might not be solely for people with brown bananas and pocket protectors. Lindsey Stanberry, founding editor of Refinery29’s Money Diaries turned media entrepreneur, joins me for the penultimate episode to talk about: Why most conversations about money are really about time What she learned about our culture from monitoring the Money Diaries comments section Leaving a job, even when it means sacrificing financial security for emotional security What’s really driving our “obsession with FI/RE” The dark side of optimization Subscribe to my weekly newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://moneywithkatie.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your copy of Rich Girl Nation, one of Barnes & Noble's Best Business Books of 2025:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.moneywithkatie.com/rich-girl-nation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Transcripts, show notes, resources, and credits at: https://moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/lindsey-stanberry-judge-hide-admit/ — Money with Katie’s mission is to be the intersection where the economic, cultural, and political meet the tactical, practical, personal finance education everyone needs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Think about cheese.
0:02.0	Make your thoughts cheesier.
0:04.2	Now add 100% chicken breast fillet,
0:06.3	Chipotle sauce and Amadea cheese melt.
0:08.3	And it's giving the new cheesy chicken stack at McDonald's.
0:12.3	Did we mention it's cheesy?
0:13.9	Cheese.
0:15.8	Availments at the 4th of Jan, 2026 from 11am.
0:18.1	Plus and participation may vary.
0:19.2	Subject's availability.
0:39.9	There's such an interest in the fire movement, which I find to be fascinating. When you dig below the surface there, it's more that people feel a lot of job insecurity and want to make sure that they have enough money in the coffers so that if
0:45.9	they need to take an extended career break, they could. If you have read the introduction to Rich Girl Nation, you know that one of my
0:59.2	formative financial moments was attending the 2018 Money Diaries Book Tour in Dallas, Texas.
1:06.2	I had never been to an event about personal finance before, let alone one for women, aside from
1:12.2	the like benefits presentation about our 401k plan during onboarding at work.
1:16.6	So the happy hour vibe with like free wine and cheese plates and young women milling about
1:24.3	talking about budgeting and saving.
1:26.4	I mean, this was a euphoria that I did not know existed.
1:30.2	And it really opened my eyes to my interest in the topic.
1:33.4	And it was there that I first watched Lindsay Stanberry,
1:37.2	the founding editor of Refinery 29's Money Diaries.
1:42.2	So Money Diaries was, if I remember correctly,
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