From WNYC Studios. I'm Brian Lehrer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Thursday, March 21st.

We're going to start today on a crisis situation that's a real crisis situation that we haven't

dealt with yet on this show because of

so much else that's been going on locally and globally. But we know this is relevant to many of you,

and it's the crisis in Haiti, where a gang uprising has successfully ousted the appointed

Prime Minister, Ariel Henri. With so many Haitian Americans in our listening

area, we want your take on why and what to do about it, and we'll talk to Gary Pierre-Pierre

from the Haitian Times in just a second. But by way of background, for those of you who don't

have ties to Haiti and haven't been following it, but hear this in the news and think,

yeah, well, this is basically right off our shores. We should know what's going on. And the United States

is often said to be somewhat responsible for this. As of now, Haitian civilians face widespread

acts of random violence and displacement.

According to UNICEF, over 362,000 desperate people are internally displaced, and hunger

and life-threatening malnutrition are at a record high across the country.

Here in the United States, Florida officials announced the interdiction of a boat

carrying 25 Haitian migrants, interdiction by law enforcement last week. Florida's governor

and former Republican presidential candidate, Ron DeSantis, threatened to fly Haitian asylum seekers.

Where else?

Not New York this time.

The other place, Martha's Vineyard.

Although CBS News reports, turmoil in that country has not resulted in a spike in maritime migration.

DeSantis's reaction to just 25 people.

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