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hello beautiful people. Welcome to God is Gray, the podcast. Although I as a Christian believe that God resides in absolute truth, in black and white, we as people are stuck here on planet Earth contending with the gray. In church, gray areas often cause dissension, anger,

and even hate. But on this platform, I welcome open dialogue, variety of opinion, and differing

belief systems. God is Gray is meant to teach, inform, and simply trade stories with kindness,

love, and mutual respect. If you have a story or perspective to share,

please reach me, Brenda Marie Davies at God is Grey XO at gmail.com. To support the cause and be a part

of our community, donate to patreon.com slash god is gray. Now, on to the episode.

Hi. Hi.

Hi, how are you?

I'm great. How are you?

I'm doing wonderful.

I heard you talk.

You could finish.

You were talking about the show that we did together.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I was just talking about the Jubilee episode.

And I guess let's just do a quick intro for anyone that doesn't know who you are.

You are the pastor of the renewed church here in Los Angeles.

Mm-hmm.

And you have an amazing project called Mama's House, yes? Called Mama's House, yes, which is a transitional living space for LGBTQ people, as well as

people that are reentering society from the prison system.

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