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The Indicator from Planet Money

Why Venezuela is no longer in freefall

The Indicator from Planet Money

NPR

Business

4.79.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 May 2024

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Back in 2019, The Indicator started checking in on with a Venezuelan economist Gabriela Saade. The economy was in freefall. The country was suffering from hyperinflation and a huge jump in poverty. Today, the U.S. faces a spike in migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border, many from Venezuela. So we check back in with Gabriela. Venezuela is due to go to the polls in July. We ask Gabriela and two other Venezuelans: what are economic conditions like at the moment? How has life changed since the pandemic? Some of the answers surprised us.

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0:00.0

NPR This is the indicator from Planet Money. I'm Jerry Woods.

0:15.0

And I'm Whelan Wong.

0:16.4

Venezuela's economy has been in free fall for over a decade.

0:20.2

It's an oil-rich country that struggles to drill oil.

0:23.4

Its currency, the Bolivar, has suffered brain-bending levels of hyper-inflation.

0:28.4

We're talking 65,000 percent in 2018.

0:32.2

Bolivarice just crumbling in your hands.

0:34.0

The seeds of the trouble began under President Ugo Chavez

0:38.0

around 25 years ago.

0:40.0

He was a leftist populist who made decisions that had some benefits like boosting education and reducing poverty.

0:48.0

But some of his actions slowly chipped away at the country's prosperity. He seized control of farms and oil

0:55.9

companies assets. He weakened Congress and suppressed his opponents. Towards the end of his

1:01.6

rule the economy faulted and it then nose-dived under his

1:05.8

successor Nicolas Maduro who doubled down as a kind of hapless authoritarian.

1:11.3

US sanctions haven't helped the economy either.

1:14.5

The South American country has had one of the largest outflows of refugees in modern history.

1:19.7

More than 7 million people left the country in the last decade.

1:23.0

That's about one in five Venezuelans.

1:25.0

Back in 2019, we at the indicator started calling into one Venezuelan economist, Gabriela Sade.

1:32.0

She told us stories about what it was like in the capital of Caracas,

1:37.3

which were often grim. You go to the streets and people in Venezuela, they are very skinny.

1:42.1

Yeah, it's they are very skinny.

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