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The Daily Beast Podcast

Why Vaccinated People Are Not Taking Delta Seriously Enough w/ Dr. Eric Topol

The Daily Beast Podcast

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4.6 • 8.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

The American public is being misled about the coronavirus vaccines, and it needs to stop now. That’s what Dr. Eric Topol, head of the Scripps Institute, tells co-host Molly Jong-Fast on the sobering latest episode of The New Abnormal. Fully vaccinated folks are walking around thinking they’re 95 percent protected from the virus, but with the Delta variant raging across the country, that number is actually more like 50 percent, Topol says.Next on the show, Daily Beast contributing editor Spencer Ackerman joins co-host Jesse Cannon to talk about his amazing new book, Reign of Terror: How the 9/11 Era Destabilized America and Produced Trump. All the explanations for Donald Trump becoming president “seem to just sort of gloss over the fact that for the past 20 years, this country has been continuously at war,” Ackerman tells Jesse. That enemy was never precisely defined, though it ultimately was radical Islam or even Islam itself— ”which opened the door for a really broad series of authoritarian possibilities." Finally, Jesse gifts Molly a very special early birthday present—a special message from a certain former mayor and cigar fan. If you haven't heard, every single week The New Abnormal does a special bonus episode for Beast Inside, the Daily Beast’s membership program. where Sometimes we interview Senators like Cory Booker or the folks who explain our world in media like Jim Acosta or Soledad O’Brien. Sometimes we just have fun and talk to our favorite comedians and actors like Busy Phillips or Billy Eichner and sometimes it's just discussing the fuckery. You can get all of our episodes in your favorite podcast app of choice by becoming a Beast Inside member where you’ll support The Beast’s fearless journalism. Plus! You’ll also get full access to podcasts and articles. To become a member head to newabnormal.thedailybeast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and welcome to the Daily Beast, the new abnormal. I'm a left-wing

0:55.2

pundit and an editor at large at the Daily Beast. We're here to have fun, sharp conversations

1:01.0

with some of the smartest people in media, politics and science that help make what's

1:06.1

happening in the country and the world clearer. Our world has been turned up to a down on

1:11.2

the new abnormal. We'll talk about the people who got us into this mess and figure out

1:15.6

how to get ourselves out of it. And I'm producer Jesse Kennan. I'm here to make sure things

1:20.3

don't go too far off the rails. We are a really, really interesting show today. Today, we're

1:25.6

going to talk to Spencer Akram and the author of Rain of Terror about the war on terror

1:29.9

and how it brought us down Trump. And then at the end of this episode, you're a fuck that

1:34.4

guy that you're really going to want to stick around to the end of because we have some

1:38.1

exclusive audio from one of our greatest schools in the show. And it really is one of the

1:44.2

funnest things we've done on the show in a while. But first, we're going to talk to Dr.

1:48.0

Eric Topel, the head of the Scripps Institute, about the breakthrough rates of infection

1:52.4

from the Delta variant that's causing the vaccinated to get sick with COVID.

1:56.5

I'm so excited to have you back, Dr. Eric Topel. Hey, I'm great to be with you again,

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