A few weeks ago, an unnamed source at the U.S. Supreme Court leaked a bombshell document.

You may have seen it. It was all over the news.

The document was a draft decision in a case called Dobbs v. Mississippi.

It was written by Samuel Alito, one of the court's conservative judges.

What the draft said is that the judges planned to uphold a state ban in Mississippi that made it illegal to have an abortion 15 weeks into a pregnancy.

But more importantly, it also said that the court planned to end the federal protection of abortion altogether.

It was going to overturn Roe v. Wade, the 1970s law that protects abortion access across the United

States. People were shocked. For one thing, leaks of opinions are extremely rare. But more to the

point, Americans don't want Roe overturned. About 65% of Americans have said they support it.

I think that the leak is, in no uncertain terms, a good thing.

I think more transparency about what the Supreme Court is doing when it's making its decisions is important.

And I think things like nationwide protests and demonstrations happening just in

reaction to the draft leaking, right? Yeah. Show conservatives at least that this is a right

that most people in the United States want to protect. That's Riannon Hamam.

Riannon is a lawyer, a public defender in Texas.

She's also one of three hosts on the popular podcast five to four.

Its tagline is a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks.

Riannon has been watching abortion law for a long time.

So when the leak dropped on May 2nd, she was disheartened, but she wasn't surprised.

Well, look, you know, in a lot of ways, like I said, first of all, reproductive justice advocates have been saying this for a long time.

But, say, in the south, in the Midwest of this country, conservative lawmakers have been allowed even under existing law to make more and more restrictive laws about abortion that mean that across the country abortion providers have had to shut down.

People have to drive already out of state

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