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The Indicator from Planet Money

Why Trump's spending bill could close your grocery store

The Indicator from Planet Money

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4.79.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Trump’s tax and spending law makes the largest cut in history to one of the nation’s biggest safety net programs. Today on the show, we explore how cuts to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, also known as SNAP, impacts families and grocery stores alike. 

Based on the digital story: Independent grocery stores have had a tough five years. SNAP cuts will make it harder

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0:00.0

NPR.

0:04.0

Republicans are on the road selling President Donald Trump's new tax and spending law.

0:17.5

And we're on the road, too, digging into what that law actually does. In today's case,

0:22.6

we're looking at how the Act makes the largest cut in history to one of the country's biggest

0:27.2

safety net programs. That would be the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, also known as

0:33.1

SNAP or food stamps. About 12% of U.S. residents receive SNAP to help pay for groceries,

0:39.5

and about 40% of them are children.

0:42.5

Ken Cobb is a professor at Furman University who studies food access in retail.

0:47.3

He says families on SNAP were already squeezed tight before these cuts.

0:51.7

It's heart-wrenching.

0:53.2

Honestly, like parents skimping on their own food so that their kids can have an extra portion.

0:59.7

Like, this is just sad.

1:01.5

Ken says this law will also have a second effect on those families.

1:05.3

Some could lose access to their only grocery store.

1:10.3

This is The Indic indicator from Planet Money.

1:12.3

I'm Waylon Wong.

1:13.5

And I'm here with friend of the show, Stephen Besaha, from the Gulf States Newsroom.

1:17.4

Welcome back, Stephen.

1:18.6

Good to be with you, Waylon.

1:19.5

And on today's show, grocery stores have super tight margins.

1:24.4

And a large portion of their profits often come from SNAP.

1:28.5

So we are off to Opelika, Alabama, to talk to a grocery store owner about what these cuts mean for markets

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