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Unchained

Why Trump’s SEC Chair Pick, Paul Atkins, Is So Positive for Crypto - Ep. 745

Unchained

Laura Shin

Tech News, Business News, News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2024

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

With the nomination of the pro-crypto Paul Atkins to be the next SEC chair, the crypto industry is potentially facing a 180 from the agency. As co-chair of The Digital Chamber’s Token Alliance initiative and a board member of Securitize, Atkins is not only pro-crypto, but also against the type of “regulation by enforcement” strategy of current Chair Gary Gensler.  In this episode, Cody Carbone, president at The Digital Chamber, explains why Atkins is likely to start reassessment of the agency’s lawsuits against crypto firms, why Trump might break with protocol to fill one of the commissioner seats that would typically be filled by a Democrat, and who he thinks might make for a good “crypto czar.”  Show highlights: Why Cody that Atkins leading the SEC would be a massive transformational shift  What can be expected from Atkins given his prior experience What crypto cases might be dropped under his leadership Whether Atkins could provide rulemaking before Congress passes legislation Cody’s hard criticism of Gary Gensler’s modus operandi Why Cody thinks Trump could surprise people when it comes to replacing Democratic Cmr. Jaime Lizárraga How long it could take for Congress to confirm Atkins Why Cody believes that Atkins will support Hester Peirce’s Safe Harbor proposal Whether the CFTC will be the primary regulator of the crypto industry in a Trump administration Whether the U.S. will have a crypto czar and who it could be What crypto legislation Cody thinks is likely to be passed in 2025 Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Polkadot iYield Guest Cody Carbone, President at The Digital Chamber Links Trump’s Office Picks:  Unchained:  Trump Taps Paul Atkins for Next SEC Chair, Making Good on His Crypto Promises Democratic SEC Commissioner Is Stepping Down, but That Doesn’t Mean Trump Will Get 2 Outright Picks  Trump Taps Hedge Fund Manager Scott Bessent to Be Treasury Secretary Trump’s Plans for a ‘Crypto Czar’ and a Crypto Advisory Council: Here’s What We Know  A Degen Administration? Why the Crypto Czar May Be Allowed to Own Tokens Tracking Trump’s Cabinet and Staff Nominations  Congressional Results John Reed Stark’s tweet:“current SEC Chair Gary Gensler is quietly working behind the scenes to lead the SEC from the grave” Buckley LLP Infobytes Blog: SEC commissioner proposes cryptocurrency safe harbor Fox Business: Perianne Boring among contenders to lead agency involved with crypto in Trump admin Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:19 Why Cody believes Atkins would be a transformational SEC chair 03:13 Insights from Atkins’ past experience and what it means for crypto 07:19 SEC/crypto cases likely to be dropped under Atkins’ leadership 14:31 Potential for SEC rulemaking before Congress passes legislation 18:19 Cody’s critique of Gary Gensler’s regulatory approach 21:13 Why Trump might break with protocol to replace Democratic commissioner Jaime Lizárraga 23:27 Expected timeline for Congress to confirm Atkins 26:52 Support for Cmr. Hester Peirce’s Safe Harbor proposal 28:18 An expanded role for the CFTC in crypto regulation? 31:37 Speculation on the potential for a U.S. crypto czar 35:03 Key crypto legislation to watch for in 2025 38:24 Crypto News Recap Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Paul is a, he is deeply, deeply steeped in the industry.

0:03.9

Again, he's not someone who's just talked about crypto a little bit.

0:07.1

And it's something that he's been forced to talk about because he's been interested in this role.

0:11.0

Paul has been one of us fighting for clarity, regulatory clarity, fighting for this technology to not only survive, but just to exist.

0:23.5

Hi, everyone. Welcome to Unchained, your No High Presource for All Things Crypto. I'm your host,

0:28.8

Laura Shin. This is the December 6th, 2024 episode of Unchained. We're starting a new tradition

0:34.9

here. We'll be including show comments on the recent episodes in every recording.

0:39.3

To start, here's two about last Friday show featuring Kartik Patel on Anoncast, the Farcaster app that allows people to send completely anonymous posts using zero knowledge technology.

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Kelsey Ruiz said, quote, the lore behind this does not disappoint.

0:56.4

And Maxime Vesanov tweeted, so at Sloc, which is Kartik, built a non-cast in a weekend with no

1:03.8

prior experience in ZK. It is amazing to watch the noir-laying thesis play out in real time.

1:09.9

This is just the beginning. Remember, if you

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