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🗓️ 30 July 2025
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Trump signed an executive order last week that could fundamentally reframe the way the federal government deals with homelessness. Titled “Ending Crime and Disorder on America’s Streets,” the order pivots away from housing-first strategies and toward public safety and mandatory treatment. That includes prioritizing funding for states and cities that ban urban camping, loitering, and open drug use, and it supports civil commitment — involuntary hospitalization for those with severe mental illness or addiction. Harm reduction programs are effectively defunded under this order, and treatment becomes a prerequisite for federal help.
This didn’t get a lot of attention in the media. That’s a mistake. Homelessness is one of the most visible problems in American cities, and it’s not going away. I’ve lived in Oakland, San Francisco, and Austin — three cities that have all struggled mightily with this issue. San Francisco in particular is the worst I’ve seen. It’s not hyperbole to say that its homelessness crisis overshadows the city’s stunning architecture and rich culture. Visitors walk away talking about tents, not the Golden Gate Bridge.
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This isn’t a lecture about policy. I don’t think there’s an easy solution. From everything I’ve read and seen, roughly half of people living on the streets are there because of financial collapse — bad luck, bad decisions, and no safety net. The other half, though, don’t want to reenter society. Some of them are dangerous, many are mentally ill, and addiction is everywhere. That’s especially true in places like the Bay Area, where cheap or even free drugs are plentiful, and the spiral from one substance to the next ends in death more often than we acknowledge.
Even in liberal cities, the political lines are shifting. When I moved to Austin in 2021, the city had rescinded its ban on urban camping. The results were immediate: tents on sidewalks, more street homelessness, and public parks taken over. A citywide referendum eventually reinstated the ban — not because Austin became more conservative, but because people across the political spectrum wanted cleaner streets. They didn’t necessarily care how it happened. That’s the political space Trump’s executive order moves into.
It’s controversial, yes. And there are real concerns about forcing treatment and stripping funding from programs that do help some people. But the public mood is changing. People are frustrated. They want their cities back, and they’re running out of patience for ideological purity tests. Trump, love him or hate him, is filling a leadership vacuum here. I don’t know if his order will work — or if it’ll be implemented at all in places that oppose him. But I do think it’s a sign that this issue is far from settled, and it’s about to get a lot more attention.
Chapters
00:00:00 - Intro
00:03:09 - Trump’s Homelessness Plan
00:14:56 - Update
00:15:18 - EPA Rollbacks
00:20:09 - North Carolina
00:23:12 - Epstein
00:26:58 - Interview with Dan Turrentine
00:59:56 - Wrap-up
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0:00.0 | On this edition of the program, Trump's executive order on homelessness and why I think it means a little bit more than people are giving it credit for. |
0:08.6 | Dan Turntine joins the show to talk about the state of the Democratic Party and a little bit of why people are so fake in the media world when they're talking politics. |
0:24.1 | Plus, we got some money news out of North Carolina. |
0:25.7 | It's all coming up. |
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0:38.3 | Politics, politics, politics, politics. Hello and welcome everybody to the politics, politics, politics program for July 30th, 2025-year-old pal, Justin Robert Young, joining you in Austin, Texas. |
1:04.9 | We're going to be joined by a great guest on this show. |
1:10.0 | His name is Dan Turrentine. |
1:11.6 | If you've not heard of him before, well, congratulations. |
1:16.3 | This is going to be your first introduction to somebody that I think is a great mind if you care about the state of the modern Democratic Party. |
1:25.7 | He has raised money for Hillary Clinton. He was the chief of staff |
1:31.7 | for Jared Polis before he went back to Colorado. And now he is on the internet. Damn near |
1:42.1 | every day. On a two ways of the morning meeting show with Mark Halperin and |
1:47.0 | Sean Spicer. And for my money, he gives an unflinching look at politics in general, |
1:55.1 | certainly from a democratic partisan lens, but he is somebody that wants Democrats to win so much that he'll actually say what |
2:03.3 | the problems are. And he'll point out things that are not going great, which is all we've |
2:09.3 | ever wanted in life. So you're going to really, really like it. That's going to come up later. |
2:16.2 | We're also going to get to talking about Roy Cooper raising a bunch of money in North Carolina. |
2:24.2 | We're going to talk about a big EPA ruling that is, I think, going to be pretty seismic, |
2:32.8 | not only in a deregulatory perspective, but quite possibly going |
2:36.6 | down the road, reshape the idea of environmentalism in America. And more Epstein. You're going to get more Epstein more Epstein than you can ever handle |
2:55.6 | you were just this is just a gluttony of Epstein too much Epstein more Epstein news |
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