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On the Media

Why Trump is a Fascist (EXTENDED VERSION)

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🗓️ 30 October 2024

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

A historian of fascism explains why he sounded the alarm back in 2018.

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On Sunday, Donald Trump hosted a rally at Madison Square Garden in New York,

0:05.4

prompting critics to compare the event to another one in the same place many years ago.

0:11.6

In 1939, more than 20,000 supporters of a different fascist leader, Adolf Hitler, packed the

0:18.9

garden for a so-called Pro-America rally.

0:22.2

A rally where speakers voiced

0:23.9

anti-Semitic rhetoric from a stage draped with Nazi banners.

0:28.1

Those speeches in New York drew chilling attention

0:30.9

to the ways in which American policy had inspired the fear.

0:35.0

American lawmakers generations ago promulgated laws forbidding intermarriage

0:40.6

between white and black, yellow, brown, and red inhabitants, it has then always

0:45.7

been very much American, wherever a race problem became acute to instinctively attempt to create legislation designed to protect the Aryan

0:56.2

character of this nation.

0:58.1

At Sunday night's rally at the Garden, Trump and his allies, untempered and unbound traded in racist tropes and

1:05.7

nationalistic rhetoric to an eager crowd warmed up by the insult comic Tony

1:11.3

Hinchcliffe. I don't know if you guys know this but there's

1:13.8

literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. Yeah, I

1:19.1

think it's called Puerto Rico. The lineup included Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, R.F.K. Jr. Rudy Giuliani and the

1:27.0

resolutely jingoistic Stephen Miller.

1:30.0

America is for Americans and Americans only.

1:34.0

And of course the main attraction.

1:35.8

The United States is now an occupied country,

1:42.4

but it will soon be an occupied country no longer.

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