We have to expand the definition of environmental justice, because we can't let people think that because if you are not black and poor, you're not going to be victimized by this.

That's not true.

On this week's more to the story, environmental activist Catherine Coleman Flowers.

She talks about how problems like contaminated water and poor sanitation cut across racial lines.

And we discussed President Trump's order to shut down a program to clean up raw sewage,

a program Catherine helped bring about because it was deemed illegal DEI.

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In America, we often take for granted things like clean water and basic sanitation.

These seem like problems for other less developed countries, but not so.

Much of rural America, even parts of U.S. cities, have infrastructure that's straining and

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