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Why Trail Running Still Hasn’t Had a "Vaporfly Moment" (Geoff Burns Explains)

Singletrack

Finn Melanson

Wilderness, Sports, Trail Running, Ultramarathon, Ultra Running, Running, News, Sports News, Mountain Running, Ultrarunning

5.01.1K Ratings

🗓️ 31 December 2025

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of the Singletrack Podcast, I chat with sport scientist and physiologist Geoff Burns to unpack one of the biggest open questions in trail running right now: why shoe technology hasn’t produced a single, decisive “Vaporfly moment” on the trails - and whether it ever will. Geoff explains why trail running is fundamentally different from road running when it comes to performance gains. While road shoes can be optimized for straight-line efficiency on uniform surfaces, trail shoe...

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0:00.0

Welcome back or welcome to the single track podcast.

0:03.2

I'm your host, Finn Melanson, and this is another, let's call it,

0:06.9

outlier episode of the single track podcast, similar maybe to the episode that we did

0:11.1

with Scott Frey earlier this month.

0:13.1

I am probably out of my lane, but with all the time that I've spent with my good friend,

0:17.9

Brett Hornig, over on his channel, conversational pace,

0:21.4

Shutech has become a fascination for me, so here we are.

0:24.9

In this episode, I'm joined by sports scientist and physiologist Jeff Burns to discuss

0:29.9

one of the biggest open questions in trail running right now, why shoe technology hasn't

0:35.0

quite yet produced a decisive, quote- decisive quote unquote vaporfly moment on the

0:40.2

trails and whether it ever will of course we get into a bunch of other related topics but that's sort of

0:44.8

where we start out if you're a shoe geek like me you'll probably enjoy it i certainly got a lot

0:49.1

out of the conversation so thanks to jeff for the deep dive by the way jeff is also a pretty talented ultra runner. Go check his ultra sign up. This episode of the single track podcast is brought to you by precision, fuel, and hydration. One of the biggest nutritional shifts for me has been dialing an hourly carb, sodium, and fluid rates based on sweat rate, race conditions, goals. And what I really appreciate about

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1:17.4

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1:21.4

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1:26.4

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1:45.5

Thank you to precision, fuel, and hydration

1:47.3

for supporting the show,

1:48.5

and for bringing some much needed clarity

1:50.5

to ultra running nutrition.

1:53.5

Are we anywhere near the physiological ceiling

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