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Simon, say what's up to Fire Nation and share something that you believe about becoming successful that most people disagree with.

You know, I think most entrepreneurs don't work, don't need to work extreme long hours to build successful business.

You know, John, there's obviously exceptions when you're working on really hard problems, trying to build a nuclear fusion startup to provide clean energy or your venture back, or you know, you have VCs holding gunked your head.

But I think for most medium, small-sized businesses out there, I don't think working hard is the answer. And I can kind of expand on that if you'd like.

Yeah, I like to expand on that just a little bit. So, Fire Nation can really get a clear grasp on this.

Yeah, I think a good question to ask yourself is what would happen at your company if you went on a vacation for, you know, six months, 12 months.

And if you think things would start falling apart, then working hard is usually not the answers. And, you know, putting in more hours, working 12 hour days like a lot of entrepreneurs do.

But instead, you need to focus on building systems, processes, and spending time on things that you're actually really good at and living everything else to your team.

It makes me really sad because I see a lot of entrepreneurs who are working in sane hours and, you know, their companies are successful on paper, but, you know, they're not seeing their friends, they're not seeing their families.

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