Why This Tech Billionaire Believes Death Is a CHOICE

The Chris Cuomo Project

Chris Cuomo

News, News Commentary, Politics, Government

4.6 • 3.3K Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Bryan Johnson (entrepreneur, author, and founder, Blueprint) joins Chris Cuomo to explain why he believes humans are on the verge of defeating death itself. Johnson, who sold Braintree/Venmo for billions and has become the most biologically measured person in history, shares his radical philosophy that AI and advancing technology will soon make aging optional—and why he's spending millions to prove it's possible. The conversation tackles Johnson's controversial practices (yes, the blood transfusions were real but misunderstood), his extreme health protocols that have given him the biomarkers of a 20-year-old at age 47, and why he believes "Don't Die" will become as influential as Christianity or democracy. From his one key metric for health (resting heart rate before bed) to why Americans resist his message while other cultures embrace it, Johnson makes the case that we're approaching an "event horizon" where human existence fundamentally changes. Follow and subscribe to The Chris Cuomo Project on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube for new episodes every Tuesday and Thursday: https://linktr.ee/cuomoproject Join Chris Ad-Free On Substack: http://thechriscuomoproject.substack.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Brian Johnson, what do you know about him?
0:03.5	Oh, that's the Braintree guy.
0:04.8	Oh, there's Venmo.
0:05.7	He made a lot of money.
0:06.8	He heard something about baby's blood and some kind of weird stuff in New York Times.
0:11.2	I don't think you know a damn thing.
0:13.4	In fact, I believe that he is one of the most popular victims of false recognition.
0:21.4	He is on to something that is so fundamental that it is crazy that it has become this kind of
0:31.8	point of conflict, this controversy.
0:36.2	Brian Johnson is a non-traversy, and that's why I wanted to talk to him.
0:41.7	He is a great living example of how obsessed we are with getting things wrong.
0:59.3	Brian Johnson, very good to meet you.
1:01.6	Thank you for taking the opportunity to be here on the project.
1:02.6	Yeah, I'm happy to be here.
1:11.6	So there are so many interesting things about you as a character, as a figure in our social commentary,
1:16.6	in the wellness space, in our innovators space. How do you see yourself?
1:18.6	I think it'd be from the perspective of those that exist in the year 2,500,
1:23.6	they would say that was the first human, the first Homo sapien that figured out that they
1:29.2	were not going to die. And how do you reconcile that with mortality as a precept?
1:37.6	Yeah, I mean, I would say that they, looking back, if you travel in time a few hundred years,
1:41.8	I think they might look back the early 21st century, our time and place,
1:45.2	and say two things of significance happened in that moment. One, that's when humans gave birth to
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