Why this Conservative Evangelical Pastor Changed Sides | NLP Replay
Native Land Pod
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🗓️ 8 February 2026
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
What role have white evangelicals played in the current struggle against fascism? Once a political actor tasked with influencing SCOTUS to overturn Roe v. Wade, Reverend Schenck has since come to regret his involvement with the religious right, which he describes as a “cult.” He now calls himself a “dissenting Evangelical organizer.” Our hosts ask the reverend what brought him around.
Join hosts Angela Rye, Andrew Gillum, and Bakari Sellers PLUS guest-host Tamika Mallory for this segment from episode #117 that aired 02-05-26
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