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🗓️ 26 November 2025
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For many Americans, the COVID-19 era revealed profound ruptures in American society. While some are eager to move on from that period and simply return to “normal,” there are others who wonder: Is it really that simple?
How can we move forward without truly reconciling with the profound brokenness that was revealed in the last five years? How can we simply ignore or forget those who were censored, deplatformed, surveilled, fired, socially exiled, or irrevocably injured? And if a new virus were to spread in America, can we really say that the same things wouldn’t happen all over again?
At the center of the people asking these questions is the Brownstone Institute, founded by Jeffrey Tucker, senior economics columnist at The Epoch Times. Brownstone has become a safe haven for free thinkers to deliberate on some of the most profound questions of our time.
“We’re really at this precipice. We don’t know which way we’re going to go,” Tucker says.
In this episode, he breaks down nine key foundational institutions of American life that he believes are in desperate need of reform.
“We need a different system, a renewed and refreshed system of ideas production and teaching production in this country, with new independent institutions that are willing to stand up and do the right thing, [that] embrace classical forms of teaching and have a broad-minded approach to academia,” Tucker says.
Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
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| 0:00.0 | The strangest thing that I think maybe I've discovered over the last five years is I feel like I spent my entire career trying to understand this thing we call government. |
| 0:11.0 | Right? And I've always thought of it as an exogenous thing. Like here's society and here's government. |
| 0:17.0 | And the one piece of the puzzle I do not understand is the extent to which industry is so interwoven with the operations of government. |
| 0:25.6 | Not just now, but really dating back probably a hundred years. |
| 0:30.6 | The last five years revealed so much that was broken about our institutions. |
| 0:35.6 | You've got these little cartels that are sort of running everything, |
| 0:39.9 | and they're excluding dissident thought. |
| 0:44.0 | And the people that are making it work this way are never named, |
| 0:48.7 | and they're never held responsible for what they do. |
| 0:51.3 | Jeffrey Tucker is senior economics columnist at the Epoch Times. |
| 0:55.6 | He founded Brownstone Institute in 2020 in response to the COVID-19 lockdowns. |
| 1:01.1 | It has since taken on some of the biggest issues facing society today. |
| 1:05.2 | A lot of things broke. |
| 1:06.8 | Education, science, government agencies, media. |
| 1:11.6 | And my beloved big tech, it was not on my team. |
| 1:16.6 | We need a different system, a renewed, a refreshed |
| 1:21.6 | system of ideas production and teaching production in this country. |
| 1:26.6 | This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Yanya Kelleck. |
| 1:32.9 | Jeffrey Tucker, such a pleasure to have you back on American Thought Leaders. |
| 1:36.6 | It's my pleasure to be here. Thank you, Jan. |
| 1:38.7 | The Brownstone Institute was a reaction to the COVID lockdowns, |
| 1:44.5 | but actually more so even everything they revealed |
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