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This is the Tom Harbin program.

So we were all treated to the spectacle of Donald Trump doing his thing on CNN,

and he went off on his rant about how, wow, you could see them stuff in the ballot boxes and

all this kind of stuff, you know, and it was bizarre, but it turns out there's more to this than

just, you know, the ranting of a deranged individual.

And Greg Palis, the investigative journalist, has been doing a deep dive in this stuff for a long,

long time. In fact, his book, How Trump Stole 2020, which came out before 2020, is available now as

an audiobook and an e-book and is absolutely as relevant as ever. Plus, of course, his latest film,

Vigilante, George's Vote Suppression Hitman, which is available on DVD. You can find all that at

GregPalis.com and his Twitter handles, Greg underscore Palis. Greg, welcome back.

How is Trump's ballot box BS a bigger threat to America than most people realize?

Yeah, well, you know, there's this idea that he's crazy, but he's crazy like a fox, understand

what he's doing. He has launched a very effective crusade against a new way that has brought out

tens of millions of young people and minority voters that is mail-in drop boxes, drop box for

mail-in ballots. In the last election, we had 25 million people put their ballots into drop

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