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Code Switch

Why the trope of the 'outside agitator' persists

Code Switch

NPR

Society & Culture

4.614.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2024

⏱️ 35 minutes

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As protests continue to rock the campuses of colleges and universities, a familiar set of questions is being raised: Are these protests really being led by students? Or are the real drivers of the civil disobedience outsiders, seizing on an opportunity to wreak chaos and stir up trouble?

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0:00.0

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What's good you're listening to Code Switch?

0:20.1

I'm Gene Dembe.

0:21.8

And for months and months now, protests have been happening around the country

0:25.1

calling for changes in how the United States engages with or in some people's eyes

0:29.2

facilitates Israel's bombardment of Gaza. But over the last several weeks in particular, the

0:36.8

nexus of those protests has been the campuses of colleges and universities.

0:46.0

Demonstrations at UCLA took a turn overnight as clashes erupted at an encampment of pro-Palestinian protesters

0:51.0

when countered. We've got to.

0:53.0

We free free free

0:54.9

college.

0:55.9

We're a bomb, you have a case.

0:58.8

How many kids can do you today?

1:00.8

How many kids have you killed today? How many kids have you killed today?

1:03.0

These protests and in some cases encampments have been really controversial, obviously.

1:11.0

They've been met by counter-protesters and they've drawn lots of commentary

1:14.4

about the role that young people, college students, are capable of playing in movements of

1:19.6

civil disobedience. Do these college students, these kids, actually know what they're talking

1:26.0

about? Are they being brainwashed? Or are they just showing up to these things

1:29.4

because it's the cool thing to do? You know, they don't understand why they're doing it

1:34.0

or what the history is behind it.

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