And the fact is, is that, you know, some of these companies have spent, you know,

hundreds of millions, billions of dollars to really own that market structure.

And so when you're an incumbent and rules come around that can disrupt you, you probably don't like it.

You know, I grew up with a lot of these guys.

And I remember sitting down with one of them

at lunch. And I'm like, dude, like, why are you so against, you know, Clary Act, blah, whatever.

And his response was, bro, do whatever you want with your silly little tokens, but don't mess with

my equities or we're going to have a problem. Welcome to bitsits and Bips, where we explore how crypto and macro collide one basis point at a time.

We're here to discuss the latest stories in the worlds of crypto and macro,

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So as always, I'm your host, Austin Campbell, high scholar of zero knowledge group.

Here with my co-host today, Chris Perkins, the golden hand of 250 digital asset management.

To the best of our knowledge, Rahm is currently somewhere at a black site being interrogated

for his negative comments about chat GPT, but he should be back next week.

So today's guest, who I'm very excited about, is Arjun Sati of Payward, aka Cracken.

And for our first segment based on that, Arjun, we wanted to talk a little bit with you about

cracking, your M&A, and the overall push for the platform. So let me frame some of what we've been

seeing and then we can talk about it.

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