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Sabotage hired goons and a landfill in Utah.

How Steve Jobs' revolutionary catastrophe of a computer, the Apple Lisa,

earned a brief second life and then was buried for good.

Watch the Verges documentary, Lisa's final act, now on YouTube.

So think of a very, very large fair space,

like multiple halls, big high ceilings, we have spaces.

Imagine your 10 out of like 5,000 people all arriving with like electronics,

kits, robotic systems, and a madness of random robotic construction starts.

This is Yuxi Leitner. He's telling us about a huge robotics competition.

It happened in 2017 in Japan. It's called Robocup,

and Leitner's team was there to compete in something special,

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