Today, on the exam room.

The plant-based movement is frozen.

I'm sorry, this is going to be very unpopular and it's going to be difficult for people,

and people are going to go up on their chairs and yell that, no, we're growing with this.

And that's not the point.

The point is we are not doing much beyond our silos.

Welcome to the exam room podcast, brought to you by the Physicians Committee.

Hi, I am the weight loss champion Chuck Carroll, raising health IQs coast to coast and around

the world.

Hi to the exam room.

He's listening in Huntington Beach, California, Bridgeport, Connecticut, and Guadalajara, Mexico.

Wherever you are, we appreciate you helping to make the world a healthier place.

This is episode 46 of season 8, number 645 overall.

You know, there are interviews, and then there are interviews, conversations that really make you pause and think.

And today definitely features the latter.

It's a spicy little chat with Dr. Dean Shurzai, who is a scientist, neurologist, and a man of very deep thought and conviction when it comes to the

evidence that is influencing the choices we make for our own health. You see, Dr. Scherzai is not

someone to rush to judgment because one study does not proof make. And that makes a lot of what we hear so obsolete and incomplete

in his estimation. And with that framework in mind, we're going to talk about some of the

recent data that has been making the rounds. Here are just a few of Dr. Scherzai's hot takes

that we're getting into. Olive oil, fish, Mediterranean diets, elitism in health,

and how to move forward and rebuild trust in science and the plant-based movement.

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