Why the past 75 years of human history have been 'an anomaly'
On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti
WBUR
4.3 • 3.9K Ratings
🗓️ 10 January 2024
⏱️ 48 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
With two wars raging and dynastic power on the rise around the world, the post-1945 world order feels like it’s being tested like never before. British historian Simon Sebag Montefiore says its’s more like a return to normality.
About:
Hosted by Meghna Chakrabarti, On Point is WBUR’s award-winning, daily public radio show and podcast. Its unique combination of original reporting, first-person stories, and in-depth analysis creates an experience that makes the world more intelligible and humane. Deep dives. Original stories. Fresh takes.
We’d appreciate your help to better understand On Point's podcast listeners and get your feedback — it’ll take you about 10 minutes or less!
Take our survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/onpointpodcast
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | This is on point. I'm Meghna Chakrabardi. |
| 0:03.0 | Simon Seabag Montefiore is an acclaimed historian. |
| 0:08.0 | His knowledge of the Middle East, Russian and Soviet history in particular, has been called encyclopedic. |
| 0:14.4 | In his most recent book, he turned that encyclopedic mind towards nothing short of |
| 0:20.4 | a history of the entire world, this time told through the stories of specific families |
| 0:26.6 | throughout human history and across international borders, just as those borders themselves fluctuate along with the rise and fall of empires |
| 0:36.1 | and the families that ruled over them. And by the way, the book called The World |
| 0:41.8 | A Family History of Humanity, is also very funny, complete with characters |
| 0:47.0 | such as Basil the Unibrow Horse Whisperer. |
| 0:50.6 | Because let's admit it, humanity also has a deeply absurd streak. |
| 0:55.0 | Now, Seabag Montefiore's book was first published in 2022, |
| 1:00.0 | but it's that conclusion |
| 1:04.0 | that conclusion we'd like to focus on today because in it he writes about what |
| 1:09.2 | he calls the beginning of the end of the 70 year peace. |
| 1:14.8 | And humanity's creeping and possibly inexorable |
| 1:17.6 | return to a time where people around the world |
| 1:19.9 | aren't enjoying the fruits of liberty and democracy, but instead are subject to the mercurial |
| 1:25.4 | self-interested actions of dynastic rule. |
| 1:29.3 | Simon Seabag Montefiore, welcome back to Onpoint. It's great to be with you today, Magna, how are you? |
| 1:36.0 | I'm doing quite well and looking forward to this conversation. |
| 1:38.6 | But you know, before we get to the new edition to, or new edition and Addition to your book Simon since I mentioned |
| 1:46.0 | Basil the Unabrau Horse Whisper I think we need to tell everyone listening a |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from WBUR, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of WBUR and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.

