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John DeLinn was one of the first people to embrace the podcast. Before they were everywhere, DeLinn had created one to talk about his church.

He called it Mormon Stories.

In those days, he was an active Latter-day Saint, but one who had started to doubt or at least have questions about all the things you can imagine in the Mormon story.

The truth claims, the church's position on social issues, the character of Joseph Smith.

So he talked about those things on the pod.

And church leaders thought Dillon crossed the line.

In 2015, he was excommunicated.

And for more than a decade, they mostly left him alone.

But last month, the church sued Dill in federal court for trademark and copyright infringement.

They objected to what they said was Dillin's use of church-protected images and design elements and names.

And one name in particular, Mormon.

The church says it holds the trademark on Mormon, at least particular uses of it. In their statement, they say this is about brand confusion.

That is, when Mormon is used by someone else in their branding, like Mormon stories, it could

cause people to mistake it for something official,

something from the church itself. The statement says the lawsuit is not about DeLynn's viewpoint or

his content. Now, why they decided to wait until now to do this is one of the questions in this

story. But John DeLind says it all started late last year.

Sometime in November, I remember receiving an email from Intellectual Reserve, the LDS Church's intellectual property arm that enforces all of its intellectual property.

So I get that email and it basically says, hey, we feel like you're violating our trademark

and our copyrights.

And we would like to have you fix several things.

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