Hey everyone, Michael Gormley here. Your least favorite Catching Fox's co-host. I know it has been four

weeks or five weeks since you've heard Luke's voice. We did that wonderful episode with Christopher

West and father Gregory Pine. Then I went and I had to move houses in the middle of Easter

season while I work for a parish. So that was fun trying to do all my parish work and clean my current house while moving

into a new house.

Just insane.

I don't know what is my problem.

I'm a glut for punishment.

So anywho, also, right before I recorded this interview with Dr. Larry Chap, my $300 microphone died.

So the way you hear my voice right now and all the wonderful room sounds that it's picking up and my neighbor who's starting up his motorcycle engine, which is a lot of fun.

Yeah, you'll hear that throughout this video because I had to record with my fancy Mac quote studio quality

microphones which are just not studio quality and very echoey I tried all I could to make it not be

annoying to you fine folks but uh Dr. Larry Chap has a professional recording thing so let's talk about

him in this episode this is actually going to be a two-parter in So let's talk about him in this episode. This is actually

going to be a two-parter. In part one, we talk about hell. Why not? We talk about Hans Ers von Balthazar

and how he used to be the right-wing reactionary and now he's the devil's progressive in our

bizarre changing culture. We talk a lot about that stuff.

Then in the second half, which I'm going to publish next week, we talk about liturgy and the

state of the church today in the liturgy with regards to Vatican II and the liturgy and

liturgical reforms and the reform of the reform and the reform of the renewal of the reform

and all the different

things that happen there. So it's a two-parter. This is going to make it a lot easier for me to move

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