Welcome in Nexters. I am Mark Kauprin editor-in-chief of the live digital video platform Two-Way and your guide here to everything next.

Joining us today will be Congressman Rokane. He's a Democrat from California.

And he normally likes to talk about economics. He's thinking about running for president in 2028.

And all of a sudden he has found

himself front and center, the leading person in Congress, maybe in either party, but certainly

amongst the Democrats, championing the effort to make the Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein-related material

public. He's the co-sponsor, amongst other things of a bill that would force the Justice Department

and the Trump administration to release nearly everything they have on Epstein, including

names of people in the documents within just 30 days. That's an effort that's being stymied

by the Speaker of the House and other Republicans. The White House doesn't support it. We'll talk to the

Congressman about where his efforts stand. And what he thinks the deeper meaning is of why this

Epstein thing has become such a big deal in our politics and in our conversation. That bill that

Kana is championed, that he's the co-sponsor of, has some pretty significant Republican support. The co-sponsors include

Thomas Massey, Tim Burchett, Nancy Mace, Lauren Boebert, and Marjorie Taylor Green. They're partnering with Mr.

Kana is unusual, as is the discharge petition they're working on to try to force the hand

of the leadership of the

Republican Party. We'll talk to him about all that. Then we'll continue to talk about that issue,

as well as the Tulsi Gabbard effort to highlight which she says was illegal behavior by Barack

Obama and his administration on the Russia Gate story. Joining me for that will be my two-way

colleagues, Bacch Younger Sargon and during

turrentime. And then next up, before our guests join us, will be my reported monologue. You know,

I've been confused by the degree to which the Epstein story is caught on and then confused by what's

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