Are you an optimist or a pessimist?

Or do you think you're just a realist when everyone else is biased?

But not you, not me either.

This week and next week, two completely different characters, both wonderful conversations.

I won't go into details about them here.

Suffice it to say that you have one of the most optimistic people this week and one of the

most pessimistic people next week.

But neither of them thinks of themselves as such.

Both of them think they are rational, hard-headed, cool-minded analysts of the data in front of them. And it's a fascinating duo.

If you enjoy this week, then it's well worth listening to next week's episode and vice versa.

A reminder that in the not too distant future, you will be able to support the mission of this

show. You'll be able to empower people to have honest conversations and not feel like they

have to subscribe to one team or another by getting a little bit more of me, not just on my ABC

radio show, which is probably the easiest way to get a big dose of Josh Zeps for three hours

every day from 1230 Sydney Time, which you can stream on the ABC Listen app. But you will also be

able to access at least a new

piece of fresh content every week. And the existing podcast will remain exactly the same.

We can't just use ad revenue to produce all of the amazing stuff that we want to

and that you obviously want us to, given the success of this show. So thank you for that.

But you'll get video blogs and recommendations

and rants and live streams with special guests and maybe even the occasional real-time

Zoom cocktail hour with yourself and yours truly. If you want to register your early interest,

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