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Why the Crypto Industry Is So Upset About the IRS’ Proposed New Tax Reporting Rules - Ep. 575

Unchained

Laura Shin

Tech News, Business News, News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 28 November 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

The IRS sparked a storm of controversy when it released proposed new rules for crypto transaction reporting earlier this year. The new rules seek to define who is considered a broker, what types of transactions need to get reported, and the kinds of digital assets that need to be included, but many in the industry consider them overly broad and ultimately unworkable.  Lawrence Zlatkin, VP of Tax at Coinbase, and Shehan Chandrasekera, Head of Tax Strategy at tax software firm CoinTracker, discuss the crypto industry’s specific objections to the proposed new rules, and what might be a better way forward. They also delve into how the regulations would apply to stablecoins and NFTs, potential blockchain-based solutions for the reporting requirements, and what the likely outlook and timeline for the proposals to come into effect are.   Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: What the newly proposed IRS regulations around crypto are and when they are likely to go into effect what entities qualify as a broker and why this may pose a problem what the implications for the industry are if these regulations were passed the number of additional reports the IRS is expecting to receive if these regulations are adopted how the regulations would apply to stablecoins and NFTs what the five types of brokers are under the proposed regulations and the three types that they exclude, according to Shehan the unprecedented amount of comments submitted what suggestions Coinbase and CoinTracker have in mind for better tax regulation why Lawrence thinks that DeFi exchanges should be treated the same as centralized ones whether people should have privacy concerns about the new proposals what some blockchain-based solutions for tax reporting are, such as attestation tokens what the next steps for the IRS proposed regulation are how long it will take to actually implement these regulations Thank you to our sponsors! LayerZero Popcorn Network Guests: Shehan Chandrasekera, Head of Tax Strategy at CoinTracker Lawrence Zlatkin, VP of Tax at Coinbase Links Previous coverage of Unchained on crypto taxes, with appearances from Shehan and Lawrence: Everything You Need to Know About Filing Your 2022 Crypto Taxes Your 2021 Crypto Taxes: How to Handle NFTs, DAOs, Airdrops and More Everything You Need to Know About Your 2020 Crypto Taxes  Why You Shouldn’t Trust Crypto Exchange Reports for Your Taxes The IRS Is Cracking Down on Crypto Taxes: What You Need to Know  Could the Bank Secrecy Act Harm Crypto? Coin Center Thinks So Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (117th Congress) Proposed rule: IRS proposed rule text: Gross Proceeds and Basis Reporting by Brokers and Determination of Amount Realized and Basis for Digital Asset Transactions U.S. Department of the Treasury, IRS Release Proposed Regulations on Sales and Exchanges of Digital Assets by Brokers CoinDesk: How the Crypto Industry Responded to the IRS Proposed Broker Rule Twitter thread from Ji Kim of Crypto Council for Innovation  CNBC: President Joe Biden to sign the bipartisan infrastructure bill⁠ into law—here's how crypto investors will be impacted IRS issues guidance, seeks comments on nonfungible tokens Coinbase first comment letter Coinbase second comment letter CoinTracker comment letter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Well my own view is that these rules as proposed are unadministrable.

0:04.3

So I think we've argued that there should be a more measured approach.

0:08.3

Hi everyone, welcome to Unchained, your no-hype resource for all things

0:15.9

crypto. I'm your host Laura Shin, author of their cryptopians. I started covering

0:21.1

crypto eight years ago and as a senior editor at Forbes was the first

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Matry-meter-porter to cover cryptocurrency full-time. This is November 28th, 2023 episode of Unchained.

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